I Can’t NOT express my opinion, sorry, not sorry. Part Two

The following is a quote from my blog post titled, “An Interview With Paige, A Sexual Abuse Survivor that attended The Younique Foundation Haven Retreat


“So the retreat is held up in the mountains in Lehi, Utah. For those flying in from out-of-state, they pick you up from the airport. For those that are driving, you’re given a meeting spot, and then you all caravan down together. A lot of people have been kind of concerned about the retreat being at an “undisclosed location,” which seems a little weird. But when I got there, I realized that a lot of the girls’ families didn’t actually know where they were, and they didn’t want them to know. Some of them were from abusive relationships and other varying circumstances, and the foundation felt like it was in the women’s’ best interests to not just show the address online.”

The retreat is held up in the mountains in Lehi, Utah.

Well that’s pretty vague.

Well, where the fuck is this place?

On several occasions, I have researched The Haven Retreat in an attempt to find out where this retreat is located. I dug DEEP, and found nothing.

Why is the location such a secret?

Why is it not listed anywhere on the internet?

Why doesn’t The Younique Foundation tell EVEN retreat participants the location much less the address of the Haven Retreat?

Googled Lehi, Utah to find out more information on the location of The Younique Foundation Haven Retreat.

According to the Lehi, Utah website the city has a population of roughly 54,000 people, give or take a few.

Fun fact – Lehi, Utah was originally settled by Mormon pioneers.

I urge you to visit Lehi, Utah. It’s simply breathtaking! (See below)

So with 54,000-ish people living in Lehi (back in 2015 anyway) it makes this official investigation a bit difficult. Although it could be worse.

I finally caved. I decided to visit the  Utah Government website. I visited this website before so I was pretty familiar with it.

Once on the Utah Government website I clicked on:


Then clicked on “Online Business services”

From the drop down menu I clicked on “Other Services”

Then I clicked on “Business Entity Search”

Once you are on this page you can search for a business; by business name, executive name, or Entity number.

I chose to search by Executive name (Maxfield)

Ooooooooooh this is sooooo exciting! *Ponders what juicy details I will find muah ha ha*

I get to the next screen which reads, “select payment method”.

WHAT??? You’ve got to be kidding me. They want me to fucking pay for this shit? Fuck tha…well its only $3.00 and I’m extremely curious what I may or may not find. Okay let’s go big or go home. I went BIG!

I put in my credit card information and paid the bloody $3.00 fee, argh! I finally hit the submit button…
Now for a moment, imagine walking into a beautiful church and there’s this amazing, beautiful choir singing, “Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah”!


All I see is “Derek P. Maxfield” listed next to these businesses over, and over, and over. HOLY FUCK! I have some research to do!


A lot of the businesses associated with the name “Derek P. Maxfield” I couldn’t find jack shit on.

A “Derek Maxfield” owns an airplane (no comment).

There were several businesses that I thought could be THE link to more information on the Haven Retreat but my searches so far turned up nothing. Damn.

I decided to do one last search.

Oh.. my.. god.

To be continued….

I Can’t NOT Express my opinion, Sorry, Not Sorry. Part One

It’s really difficult for me to not scream my opinions to the mountain tops.

What can I say i’m a negative Nancy, a cynic, an asshole, or however you want to view it. Im cool with all of the above.

In my last post, i interviewed “Paige Turner” (LOL get it?) on her experience attending the Younique Foundation Haven retreat. It was nice to finally hear someones experience at the retreat who isn’t a presenter. I got some insight into what goes on during this 4 day retreat. And, i really do appreciate Paige coming forward, telling her story, and sharing some very private details about her life. Paige, Thank You.

The interview with Paige, was a chance for her to tell her story, to talk about her experience, and lay out the facts. My intentions are NOT to bash Paige, or her experience at the retreat. Im glad she found something that worked for her.

With all of the above being said, i do have some concerns/points i would like to discuss.

After an applicant fills out her application and submits it, the next step in the application process is to have a phone interview with an “intake coordinator”.

What is an “Intake Coordinator” anyway? Well, i did some digging on Indeed, an intake coordinator accurately fills out and completes all intake(new patient, or potential new), or applicable forms. A college degree is not required, its not even highly sought after.

So, this intake coordinator has in their hands a womans application, filled with nothing but extremely personal information such as medical/psych diagnoses, a list of her current meds, a lives worth of psych history, wether said person can function day to day, wether or not she lashes out if she hears her abusers name spoken, all those little, tiny, intricate details you probably wouldn’t even tell your closest friend. But dont worry, you; the sexual abuse victim are in good hands. <Sarcasm>

On the other end of that phone, you have an inexperienced, uneducated, likely not very familiar with medical diagnoses, or prescription drugs. But he/she has your very private application right in front of them ready to judge i mean evaluate you to see if you’re “qualified” to attend the haven retreat. Don’t worry hun, you’re in good hands.<Sarcasm>

Is that all? OH…no, no, no, no, no!

This intake coordinator will ask you several personal, sensitive, confidential questions. Not only will he/she do this, but rest assured they will do it with a very judgemental tone. The manner in which these questions are asked will be in a very demeaning, unsympathetic, rude demeanor. And all these questions they will ask you, they’re not to get to know you better. NO! Each question serves a purpose, so if you happen to answer yes to any one of these questions…sorry, but you are rejected/eliminated from the younique foundation haven retreat. Better luck next year.

Ok so Let me get this straight:

The Founder (Derek Maxfield) & Co-Founder (Melanie Huscroft) started their makeup line, “Younique” solely to fund The Younique Foundation Haven Retreat. According to YouTube videos, articles, and blah blah blah, Derek & Melanie feel very strongly about this cause (or so I’m told).

Sadly, as a child Melanie was sexually abused. So, if anyone feels a strong connection to this cause it’s Melanie.

  • Why is Melanie not involved in the YF, even in the slightest?
  • Why is Derek the “founder” of The Younique Foundation?
  • Why is Derek’s wife, “Shelaine” the president of the Younique Foundation?
  • Why is Melanie always placed on the back burner?—-ok we’re starting to veer off topic here.

What I was getting to is this…

If the YF is the Maxfield family’s TRUE passion, and the reason behind why they started selling younique makeup, is to fund the foundation…

…Then why are they giving so few fucks? Let me explain.

  1. The YF is a retreat specifically for grown women(18 or older) who were sexually abused as children/adolescents. Right. We already know this.
  2. The YF is concentrating on a very specific kind of abuse, that happened at a very specific stage in life, that happened to a specific gender.
  3. They’re not a shelter. The YF isn’t taking in children, boys, girls, women with a wide array of issues—-I know, one issue can turn into several just hang in there.

The YF focuses on one issue, ONE. One large issue, but still one.

Women who were sexually abused as children.

Because the YF is focusing on one (large) issue;childhood sexual abuse, they in a way have the upper hand in a sort of way. The YF has the ability, and the privilege to SOLELY focus on this.

So why aren’t they doing more?

Why aren’t they accepting all women?

One might argue that they don’t accept all women, for the safety of the other women.

I call fucking bullshit.

You have a fucking charity retreat for damaged women!!!!!!

An Interview With Paige, A Sexual Abuse Survivor that attended The Younique Foundation Haven Retreat

Before we begin, I find it important to note that Paige is a survivor. When I asked her if she would be willing to do an interview for my blog, she happily, all though cautiously agreed.

Please remember, Paige is a human being, with a heart, and feelings. So, when commenting feel free to be honest, give your opinion, disagree, but please do so respectfully.

The woman I interviewed wishes to remain anonymous, so we’ll call her ‘Paige Turner’.

Paige would like it to be noted:

” I’m not a Younique presenter, or in anyway affiliated with the makeup. I just heard about and attended the retreat, because I felt like I could use some support in healing from abuse”.

A bit of background information…

The Younique Foundation Haven retreat, is a four day retreat for women who were sexually abused as children or adolescents.

According to The Younique Foundation Website , “The four-day retreat focuses on activities that increase the likelihood of healing from the trauma of childhood sexual abuse. While many activities are in a group setting (8-12 women) with other adult female survivors of childhood sexual abuse, participants also have personal time to reflect and rejuvenate”.

retreat house

Paige: Do you just want a breakdown of the things we did? Do you have any specific questions about it?

AM: Yeah! Send me a break down of what went on. And then if I have any unanswered questions, I’ll ask 🙂

Paige: Sounds good! I didn’t keep a super detailed journal, so I probably won’t be able to do day by day exactly. But I’ll give the basics, and what I remember!

Paige: Okay, so here’s my breakdown of the retreat! I kind of broke it down into topics so I wasn’t rambling, or too all over the place. Feel free to use whatever you want from it, and ask me if you have any specific questions!

Application Process

1.) I applied for the retreat in January. It was pretty straightforward—asked what sort of medications I was on (I’m currently on Celexa for depression), if I was able to go a week without any substances (no drugs or alcohol at the retreat), and basic questions about if I felt I’d be able to be in a group of women I didn’t know for a week, with nothing in common except abuse.

2.) After about a week I heard back, and had a short interview with their intake coordinator. She went over some of the questions on the application, and just made sure I was stable enough to be in the situation of the retreat. I think this part of the application process has given people a bad taste in their mouth for the retreat—it can seem kind of like you already need to have your crap together to get there…when the point of the retreat is to help you get your crap together. I understand why they do it, and that they want to make sure all the girls are in a good, safe environment where they won’t feel overly triggered…but I think they could find a way to improve on this, or at least hook the girls up with a counselor in their area to help them prepare to go the retreat, instead of just turning them away.

Retreat Logistics

So the retreat is held up in the mountains in Lehi, Utah. For those flying in from out of state, they pick you up from the airport. For those that are driving, you’re given a meeting spot, and then you all caravan down together. A lot of people have been kind of concerned about the retreat being at an “undisclosed location,” which seems a little weird. But when I got there, I realized that a lot of the girls’ families didn’t actually know where they were, and they didn’t want them to know. Some of them were from abusive relationships and other varying circumstances, and the foundation felt like it was in the women’s’ best interests to not just show the address online.

It’s four days, and totally free. You are put into a group of eight to ten girls, and you share a room with one or two. You’re assigned a case manager to help you with odds and ends around the retreat, and then given an individual therapist as well. You have the chance to meet with your therapist multiple times throughout the week, and get one on one counseling. Twice during the week, you can participate in “group therapy.” That was totally new to me, but I honestly really enjoyed the chance to be able to hear that other girls had felt the way I had, and that I wasn’t alone in my experiences.


AM: Sorry to interrupt Paige, but the Haven Retreat isn’t completely free. I just don’t want either of us giving out any false information. Any woman interested in attending the retreat must pay their own way there. For some Women that live close by this isnt a deal breaker, but for those that live on the other side of the country, plane tickets can get pretty pricey.

AM: Im sorry to interrupt, please continue Paige.


Paige: Throughout the rest of the retreat, you basically get to pick your own schedule. They have all kinds of classes and workshops going on throughout the day, and you kind of get to tailor your schedule to what you specifically need.

A lot of the classes were totally informational—they had classes on healthy sexuality, healthy eating and improving your sleep habits, healthy ways to manage your stress, etc. They also taught us all kinds of techniques to help us manage our triggers, recognize our worth, and move forward from the abuse.

A big part of the retreat was helping you feel empowered in your own body. For a lot of survivors of abuse, we just feel kind of gross. There were a few women at retreat who mentioned that hadn’t really let anyone take pictures of them since they were young—they were that unhappy with themselves. They spent a good portion of the retreat helping us to overcome that. In the mornings, there was an option to do yoga to start your day. It was a chance to help us meditate, and be present. So many survivors have issues with dissociation (disconnecting from the present), and the yoga helped us to be there, in the moment, and connect with our bodies. They offered a self-defense class too, which was really powerful for a lot of the women. It’s empowering to feel like you are capable and can prevent abuse from happening again—so that was a huge deal for some of us. A lot of us have a lot of repressed anger, too, and that was a good and healthy release.

For the women that wanted to (I think only a few opted out of this), they did a photoshoot. They offered to do our hair and makeup (they use Sephora makeup, not Younique—so you don’t feel pressured to like or use their makeup), and then had a photographer (who is also a survivor) come and do a photoshoot. It maybe sounds superficial, but the message behind it was awesome. They wanted all of us to have at least one picture of us where we feel confident and beautiful, that we can look to when we’re struggling. This was a favorite for a lot of the girls.

My Experience

Honestly, the retreat did wonders for me. There are plenty of things I probably left out and have forgotten, so feel free to ask me to elaborate on anything. But I’ve searched for years to find some kind of closure after my abuse. I spent years as a little girl being abused by a family friend, and was then abused by a high school boyfriend. I nearly didn’t graduate, because my depression was completely debilitating. I failed out of college, and was at an all time low. The retreat did so much for me emotionally.

I think what the retreat did very successfully was helping me to realize that I’m probably never going to completely forget about the abuse. When I look back on my past, it’s ALWAYS going to be there. But they helped me to move forward. When I’m triggered, they’ve given me the tools to handle it in a healthy way. It’s helped me to feel empowered, and like I have worth again.

I’ve seen a lot of critiques from people opposed to MLMs—Younique presenters are promising everyone that buying their makeup will “empower women,” and everyone is wondering where those empowered women are. I personally don’t agree with MLMs, I don’t think they’re good business plans, and a lot of people are let down when they realize it’s much harder to make money in them than is actually advertised. But I DO believe that Derek and Shelaine Maxfield’s claim that they want to empower women is genuine. Their cause has totally turned my whole life around, and it’s made a huge difference for me!


AM: Thank you for providing such a detailed overview, i really appreciate it. I do however, have some questions.

AM: First, I just want to say that I am so very glad that the Younique Foundation Haven Retreat helped you so much! It takes a lot of courage just to fill out an application, let alone the rest of the application process. I’m so proud of you!
I’m so sorry you had to go through what you did. It’s not fair, in fact it’s terrible.
1.) I can completely understand the foundation not having their retreat address readily available online, just for anyone. But never disclosing it worries me. I know if I were to attend the retreat, and I couldn’t tell my significant other were I was in the event of an emergency I would find that very worrisome, and so would my significant other. Do you have any other thoughts on this?
2.) What specifically did the retreat do for you emotionally?
3.) Was the Mormon religion brought up at all?
4.) Are you religious at all? Was the step 5 helpful to you?
5.) What kind of follow up counseling does the retreat offer in detail? Are these licensed therapists?
6.) Do you apply what you learned at the retreat into your everyday life?
7.) Do you feel the retreat is a good use of donated funds, why or why not?
8.) What do you think the retreat could improve on?
9.) Do you know if the foundation is licensed?
10.) Did they have any HIPAA notices, like hospitals do?
11.) How is your life now?
12.) How did you hear about the Younique Foundation?
13.) What made you decide to apply to the foundation over other women’s retreats out there?
14.) What made you decide to make that post in reddit? (Paige submitted an AMA post in the r/Youniqueamua sub)
15.) Did you fill out any forms when you first arrived at the retreat?
16.) What activity was the most useful to you?
Paige: Thanks so much, and thank you for being so understanding! I know a lot of people on the subreddit have some hard feelings against Younique, and have had bad experiences…so I felt a little vulnerable talking about it…but I also wanted people to know that it’s not all bad! Haha. I really appreciate you being so kind about the whole thing!
I know if I were to attend the retreat, and I couldn’t tell my significant other where I was in the event of an emergency I would find that very worrisome, and so would my significant other. Do you have any other thoughts on this? So they don’t have the retreat address information posted online, but they DO give it to you before you get up there. That way, the girls that want to share where they are can, and the ones who are keeping it a secret can keep it that way. 🙂
What specifically did the retreat do for you emotionally? I think that the retreat does a really good job of educating you on what actually goes on in your head when you get triggered. For me, it was just always so traumatizing–I’d be totally fine one minute, and the next I could barely function. It made it hard for me to handle school, I had to take half days at work all the time because I’d get off track and couldn’t back on. So when I’ve already got these bad feelings about myself from the abuse, I felt even worse because it was STILL affecting me, and I kind of just hated myself, really. One of the biggest things the retreat did for me was help me change my way of thinking. They teach a lot about what is actually going on in your brain when you are triggered, and how your survival instincts take over, and pull you back into the moment of abuse.
One of the five strategies, and I personally think the most helpful one was #3, power through surrender. It basically teaches you that when you’re triggered, it’s okay, and it doesn’t make you bad or incapable of moving forward–it’s just your body’s reaction to try to keep yourself safe. They teach you tons of grounding techniques to pull you back to the present, like deep breathing, meditation, and other mindfulness exercises. That was super helpful for emotionally, because the next time I was triggered, it was MUCH less traumatizing. I realized what was going on, realized that it didn’t make me bad, and I was able to move forward much more quickly. And it’s just gotten easier and easier since then.
Was the Mormon religion brought up at all? Not at all. At least not by the staff. One of the girls at the retreat was LDS, and mentioned her faith a few times. But so did the girls from other religions and backgrounds as well. I’m pretty sure Shelaine Maxfield is LDS, but I had no indication on whether or not any of the staff were. They were really professional, and never brought it up.
Are you religious at all? Was the step 5 helpful to you?
I am religious! A lot of the girls there were not, but I am. I honestly thought the five steps were really helpful. The last one is faith, which I think some of the girls were a little hesitant to talk about, because they weren’t religious. But when they taught it, they talk about faith as a strong belief in a bright future, and a faith in your ability to heal. So if you feel like you get that ability from whatever God you worship, then that’s cool for you. But it also applied to the girls that weren’t religious, which was nice.
What kind of follow up counseling does the retreat offer in detail? Are these licensed therapists?
At the retreat you do some simple talk therapy with licensed therapists. I think they had two (possibly three?) at the retreat, and each girl was assigned one of them. They did a few sessions of personal talk therapy with each participant, and then they offered the option of group therapy twice throughout the week. Once you get home, they have case workers that help you find therapists in your area, and will coordinate with them to get you all set up. They also help you if you want to find self-defense classes, yoga, etc. Basically if they taught you something at the retreat, they’ll find someone in your area to help you keep up on it. I also got a notice a month or two ago that they’re working on starting up support groups around the country that will be totally free, and available to anyone, whether or not they’ve been to the retreat.
Do you apply what you learned at the retreat into your everyday life?
Overall I do. They give you a really nice little workbook (I’m pretty sure you can download it for free) that has lots of exercises to help you keep up on everything. There’s tons of different ideas in there, and I’ve kind of narrowed it down to a few that resonated with me. For example, I love to journal. So they give me ideas on how journaling can help you with your mental health and self-care. I use their deep breathing and grounding techniques for whenever I’m triggered, and a lot of them I just use when I’m stressed overall. I feel like they’ve really improved my mental health since I got home.
Do you feel the retreat is a good use of donated funds, why or why not?
I honestly do feel like the retreat is a good use of donated funds. I’m not 100% sure on how all the donations work, just that they have to get 1/3 of their donations from donors, and then the Maxfields can double match every donation. I think portions come from the makeup company, but definitely not the 100% or even the 10% that some presenters just claim. That’s just silly and bad information on their part. I’m pretty sure they have a team that is dedicated to philanthropy and seeking donations–then the Maxfields are able to double match any donation received because they make money off the makeup company. So as far as I’m aware, they donate 2/3 of the money that keeps the foundation going from their personal funds. Which is pretty cool to me. I noticed after looking at the Younique reddit that people have some hard feelings against them–but I think they are doing their best.
What do you think the retreat could improve on?
I think the retreat could definitely work on being more accessible to people in other areas. There were girls in my group from all over the world, but some of the girls definitely had to pay much more than I did to get there.
I’ve heard that they are working on building other locations so they can reach more people, but in the meantime, it makes it hard.
I think I might have mentioned this in my last email, but I also know some women have been hurt because the retreat didn’t feel they qualified. I get that they need to make sure people are stable and able to be in the retreat environment, but I think rather than turning people away, they could maybe help them find a therapist in the area that can help them prepare to go.
AM: Honestly, it breaks my heart to think of how many women were probably turned away. I dont think its right that the Younique Foundation, just turns these women away like that.
Do you know if the foundation is licensed?
I don’t think I know enough about what is required to answer this question!
Did they have any HIPAA notices, like hospitals do?
I believe so. I’ll try to track down my paperwork to give you a better answer on this one, but I think so. I know the staff is required to follow HIPAA policies. For the participants, we all agreed to not post pictures that included others, or to mention the people we met at retreat by name. I don’t remember if we signed on this, or if we just all stuck to it because we know it’s a hard boat to be in, and we’d never want to out someone else whose family doesn’t know, or…any other reason really.
How is your life now?
My life is way better than it was before. It’s improved my marriage a LOT, and I feel a lot less stuck before. My family relations have gotten a lot better, too. For a long time I hated going to family events, because anytime my dad (he’s not in my life anymore, and allowed a lot of my abuse) was brought up I would just feel sick. I’d find myself disassociating whenever I was with them, and eventually just stopped seeing them. We’re all on really good terms now, and I dissociate very rarely. When I DO, I know how to get myself back. I’m generally happier, and feel much more like myself than I have in years.
How did you hear about the Younique Foundation?
A friend of mine attended the retreat, and posted about it on Facebook.
What made you decide to apply to the foundation over other women’s retreats out there?
Honestly, I didn’t look into a lot of other retreats. I tried different types of therapy throughout my life, but I never really saw the appeal of a retreat. I pictured a lot of women crying in a room together for a week, and that didn’t sound appealing to me at all. When my friend posted such a positive experience, I decided to give it a try. It was close enough to me that it was at least do-able, so I thought it’d be worth the drive. I’m sure that a lot of other retreats give women similar experiences, but this was just the one I tried!
What made you decide to make that post in reddit?
I was talking to someone about the retreat earlier today, and it made me curious to look up the reviews. I was really surprised to see some of the negative opinions people had on it, and I wanted to offer a different perspective. I saw a lot of posts asking “Where are these empowered women that they keep talking about?” or “I bet they prey on vulnerable women to make them sell their makeup.” I just wanted to share that I hadn’t had that experience at all. The company may have its flaws, but I think their goal to help abused women is genuine.
Did you fill out any forms when you first got to the retreat?
There was a registration folder that they gave us when we first got there. Sadly, I don’t think I have it anymore. I’m pretty sure I got rid of it with clutter a few months ago. But I’m pretty sure it included the basics–address, contact info, emergency contacts, etc. I think there was a form laying out any allergies or food preferences, so the chef could cater to you. There was a permission slip to let them photograph you if you participate in the photoshoot. They don’t have permission to share the pictures, unless you request it to. (On their website you can “Share your story,” where you tell your experience, and you can give them a picture to post with your review). I’m pretty sure there was a HIPAA form, because all staff is required to adhere to HIPAA policy. I think that was about the extent of it.
What activity was the most useful to you?
I really liked the hands on activities, like self-defense, mindfulness practice, and yoga. In my opinion, you can get talk therapy in most places. I mean, I’m glad that they included it, but you can find a therapist anywhere. But it was nice to have guidance in exercises that helped you feel comfortable in your body again. A LOT of us really struggled with that, and those things were really helpful, but also simple enough that I could keep practicing them at home. As far as mental health goes, their workbook is really good.
Paige:I hope those answers are okay–if you want me to elaborate on anything I said, I’m happy to! And sorry it’s taking me so long to get back to you–thanks for being patient!
AM: You did great, Paige! Thank you for being so thorough, and speaking about something that is so tough to talk about.
Paige: Just one other thought I had while I was reading through your blog: I saw the post about Albie’s experience applying for the retreat, and I hope she would know that I am in no way trying to diminish her experience or opinion. I’ll admit that the intake coordinator who called me for screening part of the application process wasn’t particularly warm. I was a little surprised and caught off guard by her, because she was a little more blunt than I thought was appropriate, considering the topics we’re discussing. It’s an intimidating thing to even apply for the retreat, and a big step for a lot of us–I think they should be more sensitive about it. I was honestly a little nervous that I’d run into “Doris (as Albie calls her)” at the retreat, and was really relieved that I didn’t. All the staff that was actually there was really warm and friendly, but it sounds like Doris probably needs to work on her bedside manner.
AM: Thank you for sharing that, Paige. Ill make sure Elle Beau gets the message over to Albie.

End Of The Month

It’s the end of the month for Younique, and all MLMs. You know what that means, push, push, push! They need to finish the month strong! Get those last minute sales in so that they can hit their goals.

Watch out especially for those yellows, they REALLY want to hit pink this month so they can get that $200 bonus that Derek was so generous to offer!

God, he is so great, he’s down to earth, funny, and would do anything for his presenters! Wait…

What? Do you mean…he lies to his Y-Family AKA his presenters??? Whattttttt???? It can’t be! Oh hun, it totally can be.

Let’s go back to that AAAAAAAMAZING $200 bonus he’s offering to his yellow and white presenters if they hit pink.

In order to hit pink status there’s a few things you have to do.

1.) you need to have at LEAST one person underneath you, so if you don’t have someone you need to go out and recruit at least one person. And, let’s be honest, that shit is hard AF.

2.) you need to have at least $250 in sales. Oh, that doesn’t sound so bad. That’s like two younique products LAWL.

Ok so far this totally sounds doable, an extra $200 in my pocket would be nice.

3.) you and your downline, AKA that one person you recruited, you two need to have combined sales of at least $2000.

But wait it gets better. Every time a presenter makes a sale they get 25% commission, so that sale you just made only the 75% after your commission is taken out is counted towards that $2000 you need to hit. Are you still with me?

Basically only 75% of a presenters sale go towards the $2000 you need to make. It’s math time eakkkkkkkk!!!!!!!11111!!!!!

$2000 X 25%=$500

Wow! Ok so the presenter and her “downline” ACTUALLY need to make at least $2500 in sales.

Well shit, that’s pretty fucked up. But remember Derek loves his presenters. Is that how you show love? Apparently so.

Wait, so I️ have to recruit one person and get $2500 in sales? That’s a hell of a lot for just $200.

And that OH SO LOVING Derek is only giving $200. $2000 divided by $200 comes out to 10%. WHAT THE FUCK?

You have to make 25% more in sales, but he’s only giving you 10% of your sales.

I️ don’t know about you but to me that seems like a LOT of fucking work for just $200.

MAYBE, he actually doesn’t give a flying fuckity fuck fuck about his presenters and just wants more sales. GASP! It can’t be true!!!! Oh hunbot, sorry not sorry it totally is true.

Cruelty Free Bullshit

First, i would like to clarify a few things.

1.) Younique is NOT cruelty free.

2.) I’ve heard several excuses by presenters, giving reasons as to why Younique has not pursued “formal certification” to be registered as cruelty free. Prepare yourselves, this is some ridiculous bullshit.

A.) It’s too expensive—I️ can’t even make this shit up. I’ve heard presenters give this as a reason over and over, and over, i shit you not. How the fuck does that even add up to these fucking people? They charge $40 for foundation, primer, concealer, etc, you get the idea.

B.) Younique has animal hair on some of their brushes, if they went cruelty free they would have to switch over to all synthetic makeup brushes.—oh. That’s interesting. Yep, that’s the ONLY reason younique has not gone cruelty free. Yeaaaaaahhhh. Riiiiiiggghhhht. Because that makes perfect sense. For fucks sake.

C.) Younique would rather spend the money on their presenters.(I saved the best one for last, you’re welcome)—hahaha. Say whaaaattttt? They actually believe this! I️ can’t even go on.

OK, moving on.

So, what is the real reason as to why Younique hasn’t pursued formal certification to be cruelty free? I have a few thoughts on this, not necessarily facts because, well, Younique will NOT say why. Making themselves look shady as fuck. Anyway, ahem…

Because it’s fun let’s talk about the reasons the presenters gave us:

1.) it’s too expensive—ok, for funsies let’s get into the nitty gritty details.

After doing some major research on the web:

A.) There doesn’t appear to be any set dollar amount on how much it costs to obtain a cruelty free certification. All the non-profits I️ came across only charge a one time fee, because they’re all non-profits it only covers what it would cost them to certify a company. Is it expensive? I don’t know.

Edit:I’m very unhappy with this part, and will do some digging!

2.) Younique has animal hair on some of their brushes.—Finally, a little bit of truth comes out of the presenters mouth, call me impressed! Let’s get nitty gritty!

A.) Yes, there is animal hair on some of their brushes. However, that is not the ONLY product that is not cruelty free. What other products you ask? I️ was waiting for you to ask! The following products are not cruelty free: 3D+ fiber lash mascara, epic mascara, lash serum, eyebrow palette, eyeshadows. Is that it? Well that’s not as bad as I️ thought! Hold on—i only looked at a few of the products ingredients. EVERY product, yep, every single one that I️ looked into is NOT cruelty free. Look for yourself, Younique lists the ingredients on every products page. Sorry presenters. Not sorry.

3.) Younique would rather spend the money on their presenters. A.) Ummmm no. You ARE brainwashed. Open up your god damn eyes and take a good look around. I️ can’t even continue with this one. My brain can’t even Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Can we please move on? Presenters make my poor brain hurt.

Going back to my opinions, thoughts, and whatever this is my blog I️ write what I️ want.

1.) Younique doesn’t give one single fucking shit about animals.

2.) The stupid company wants to make a loooootttttt of money. Animals? Fuck that, they better either get out of the way, or get run over by Derek Maxfield the CEO himself.

3.) True story: it’s well known that the founder and co-founder of Younique are Mormon. They take their religion very seriously. Next time there’s an annoying Mormon knocking at your door, stop and think that the founders children might be at your door. Yeah that’s right, eat that one for lunch.

I️ swear this is going somewhere.

Sooooooo Mormons apparently believe pretty strongly in kindness towards all animals.

“When animals were placed upon the earth, our Heavenly Father said that it was good. (See Gen. 1:25.) Since the creation of the earth, man has been given dominion over the animals. The seriousness of this charge is indicated in Joseph Smith’s inspired revision of Genesis:

“Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. … And surely, blood shall not be shed, only for meat, to save your lives; and the blood of every beast will I require at your hands.” (JST, Gen. 9:9–11.)”

Source: LDS.org

Well someone better let Derek Maxfield know that he’s living in sin! SOUND THE PRESS!!!

Ok ok ok, we’re just about done.

Just a few things:

1.) Dont buy from an MLM!

2.) be the change you wish to see in the world–let me interpret that for you: GO OUT AND BUY FROM CRUELTY FREE COMPANIES!

3.) But in all seriousness, do you really want to be wearing animal carcass on your lips or forehead? Shits nasty af.

#Antimlm #poonique #Apportionedmembrane

My Younique Journey Began

At first i couldn’t believe how expensive their products were. But very quickly i found out that their products are expensive, because younique only sells high end skin care & makeup products.

I watched my Y-Sisters live videos, trying to learn as much as i could. Every presenter had every single one of Youniques products. In the presenters live videos they would do things such as a half face, the flawless four(primer, foundation, concealer, and the foundation brush), eyeshadow tutorials, and of course putting eyeshadow swatches on their arm with and without eye primer, and of course their famous 3D+ fiberlash mascara.

I️ couldn’t believe how well the foundation covered everything. I️ decided to spend the $40 on the foundation, and $32 on the foundation brush.

I️ finally did my first live video! I️ was so nervous. I️ took the smartass joking route in my video, because well that kinda sums up my personality. I’m not one to be fake, or even too serious, or lie. The more live videos I️ did, the more people would watch. People thought my live videos were hilarious. I️ kept doing the live videos, and I️ would buy a few products here and there. I️ was in love with Youniques products!

It was really hard to sell anything. So I️ started hitting up my family. I️ got a few sales, and hit the $125 in sales to get to the white status. Everyone was so excited how quickly I️ hit white status.

Between the products I️ was buying for myself, and the sales I️ got, I️ hit yellow status by my 5th week as a presenter for younique. My Y-Sisters were soooooo excited! And they posted it on all the Younique Facebook groups, they said I️ was on fire, being a presenter for younique came naturally for me, and that I️ hit yellow soooo fast!

My sponsor started to tell me that I️ need to recruit some people. They gave me tips and advice on how to do this. I️ started posting about it on Facebook, and in my VIP group, I️ didn’t get one single like. No one seemed interested.

My sponsor and my y-sisters who were at a higher color status started coaching me on how to get a recruit. One of them gave me a script, and told me I️ need to start messaging every girl on Facebook messenger. The script went something like this; hey girl!!! I️ hope you’re doing well! I️ noticed your posts on Facebook and your makeup always looks so good. You’re so pretty, have you thought about joining younique. You can do it all from your phone, and make extra money!

I️ sent the message to a couple people, everyone ignored. I️ felt pretty uncomfortable about sending a scripted message to my Facebook friends. But my y-sisters told me it’s not about recruiting girls, it’s about showing them how amazing younique, and sharing your love of what you do with other ladies!

I️ finally got a girl to join! She didn’t have the money to pay for a $99 kit, so I️ paid for it. But that didn’t matter, I️ had a girl under me! All my y-sisters were soooo excited eakkkkkk! She didn’t end up selling a single thing, her account went inactive and eventually terminated.

I Sort Of Gave A Shit

The big day came, I got my “kit” in the mail. I remember opening the box and looking in the purple bag and I thought, “this hardly came with any products”. The pictures online made it look like stuff was pouring out of the purple bag. So I unboxed all the products and put them back in the purple bag. I didn’t pick the bag up again until two weeks later.

These were my thoughts as I was unboxing the products:

A couple random brushes: meh whatever

3D fiber mascara: this sounds scary, and uncomfortable, I’m a bit terrified.

Lipgloss: I hate lipgloss

Cream eyeshadow: uhhh? This sounds slimy and gross.

Eyeshadow palette: ok boring colors, whatever.

Face wash: that’s cool, I’ll try that out.

***Ponders to self: “why is everything so fucking purple”?***

Beauty uplift serum: What the fuck is this? And why is it in such a weird bottle.

Rose water: ok sounds legit, but I have no idea what it’s for.

As you can see so far, excitement was not quite bleeding out of my ears.

Ok, so moving on.

My sponsor was like, “the first thing you need to do is create a group, call it your younique boutique, and then add every single female your friends with to the group”. I was like k why? She says, “you never know who’s going to be interested, people you never expected to buy anything will be your best customers”. Wait pause, just a btw that totally did not end up being true. So I made my cute lil group, I however did not add every single female. I didn’t want to be pushy or annoying—wait WHATTTTTTTT? Yeah I know, crazy right? Don’t worry my uplines tried to change that!

So my sponsor is like super boss babe excited, right? Before I received my kit in the mail she’s like, “omggggggg ok so you totalllly have to do a live video of you opening the box, and unboxing every product, so all the ladies can see how excited you are”. I told her ok. But I was thinking, “The fuck? I’m not doing that. Yeah, no not happening”.

The whole thing just felt weird to me. The girls were just a lil too excited for my liking, I told myself I wasn’t going to be pushy or annoying, it sorta felt like I was coming out of the closet to all of my Facebook friends.

So I made a Facebook post about it. Along the lines of, “a friend talked me into it, I’m now selling makeup for younique, go ahead laugh at me. I figured meh why not”?

My sister in law(who is a total cunt bitch, god I can’t stand her. That felt soooo good. I can say that and she’ll never see it because I’m anonymously writing this!) commented on my status and was like, “I’m not laughing at you but I’m sorry to say that’s just a pyramid scheme”. I was already aware of this, and she’s a waste of time so I just didn’t reply to her comment. But don’t you guys worry-my sponsor saw it (I was waiting for her to notice it muah ha ha) and she replied to my sister in laws comment. She basically said blah blah blah it’s not a pyramid scheme, step the fuck down before I sick all my y-sisters on you.

That’s the very beginning of my MLM journey.

Exciting shit I know. Don’t you worry my little readers, were just getting started.

It’s so easy to hate them

It’s so easy to hate these people that work for an MLM. After all,

they’re pushy,

they post motivational things to captivate their audience, and come off as someone who is real.

They randomly friended you on Facebook, and you have no idea who they are.

They just randomly messaged you to see how you’re doing, only to throw a sales pitch into what you thought was a nice conversation.

They post their “why” once a week.

You get randomly added to their, “VIP” group.

We the people of social media are sick and tired of these MLMers spamming our social media sites!

But did you know that behind every MLMer is their sponsor, or upline, or recruiter, or whatever the fuck that company calls that person who is 1, 2, 3 or whatever colors, or diamonds, or whatever levels ahead of this MLMer. And that ultra boss babe leader is breathing down that poor newly recruited MLMers neck.

This ultra boss babe leader is telling the newly recruited MLMer:

1.) Post 3-5 times a day in your super duper VIP group, and her personal page. It must be a combination of motivational, your face next to a product, and something advertising your amaaaaazing business.

The fuck? And this is every day? EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY. But you need to be consistent and post every day, because after all if you don’t post 3-5 x a day you won’t get any customers, then you’ll never move up the pyramid, and you’ll never become an ultra boss babe leader.

2.) do a live video every day.

Are you kidding me, every day? Yup, it better be every day otherwise your losing customers that some other ultra 5x diamond boss babe will snatch up. PLUS, live videos are the best way to get sales. O rly? Why? Who the fuck knows. Wait, does this mean I have to shower every day? Well shit, I’m cool with doing the other shit, but, taking a shower every single god damn day? I didn’t sign up for this, can I just use some dry shampoo like 4 days in a row? NO YOU MUST SHOWER OR YOU WONT BE SUCCESSFUL!

3.) start growing your team!

Huh? Basically you better start talking about how amazing your biz is, how you are your own boss, basically you better start faking it, lying, deceiving people, and telling people your making major bank, even though you’ve actually lost money. If you don’t grow your team you’ll never move up the pyramid, and also your sponsor will be super hunbot pissed. Because their not making money off of you and your recruits. GET IT TOGETHER BETCH!

4.) lets all post our “why” today!!!!!!!!

The fuck is a why? Well, talk about why you joined this amazing business. It better fucking be moving and cause a girl to tear up. Tell everyone that you are your own boss, even though your not, and you actually had to sign a legal agreement. Tell them it has changed your life, and became part of this aaaassshmazing lash boss dream team sisterhood! You can work when you feel like it, even though that’s not true. Say that you wish you hadn’t waited so long to join. You should probably make a collage, with your face, a pic of the starter kit, and your company’s innovative logo. Make sure you use heart emojis in place of bullet points. Oh and show how much you love what you do by using every emoji two times! Oh and end your why with, “watch me or join me”. That phrase will make every female want to know more about your lash biznessssssss.

This is not everything, but a few of the top ones. Next time you see an annoying MLM post, think back to this blog entry. Maybe show a little sympathy?

I mean what do I know though? I only used to be a hunbot. Don’t hate on the little guy. Hate the founders, and the very top leaders. These are the real bad guys. The pyramid sets the Huns up for failure before they even started. The Huns at the bottom, they’re all the company’s customers. The Huns buy product to show it off, and then again to meet their monthly goal, and then they decide they need to build up stock. They eventually lose all hope of moving up the pyramid, and quit only to be replaced by two more hunbots.

I feel bad for the Huns. They were lied to, deceived, given false information, because let’s be honest this was the only way to get anyone to join. They just wanted to make a little extra money, they had no idea it would be like this.

This is all my take on it anyway. Decide for yourself. You do you brah.

Edit: I finished up this post kinda quickly. I had a killer migraine, please forgive me!

I know there are ALWAYS two sides to every coin. Because I worked in an MLM my view point is a bit skewed. What I mean is, I see MLMers differently than your average joe who has never worked for an MLM. I saw this post on reddit, a business owner was venting about people who work for MLMs. They talked about how they worked their ass off to get where their at today. Then you have all these MLMers who call themselves “business owners”. I definitely saw this persons point too. If I was that person I would be pissed, and angry, and feel like these MLMers are making a joke out of being a business owner. Anyway, I enjoy reading about other people’s perspectives on things.

Feel free to leave yours in a comment or email me!


Where to begin…

I’ve been pondering for what seems like days, trying to decide what I wanted my next blog post to be about.

There’s just too many options, where does a gal begin?

Then I started thinking about my time with younique, why was I under the impression that all of Youniques products were so, “high end”?

The truth is, the majority of ladies that start selling for younique (presenters) don’t know a god damn thing about makeup.

I didn’t get recruited for my amazing talent of knowing everything about makeup. No, I got recruited(sounds like I’m joining the fucking army) because I have a pretty face. Now, that DEFINITELY is not why everyone gets recruited/becomes a boss babe. I mean let’s be real…we’ve all seen the pictures. YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE PRETTY TO JOIN YOUNIQUE! If you have no idea what I’m talking about go to Instagram and search; #younique.

I knew about what the average girl knows about makeup, which is sad.

I wore makeup once a week? If not, less. I didn’t give a shit about going into public with a naked face.

I was the “perfect candidate”, aka a stay at home mom. I swear they search far and wide for us, YOU CANT HIDE FROM THEM!

So I got recruited by an old friend. After telling her no twice. But as the uplines tell you, “no just means not right now”. Don’t even get me started on that one!

So I started selling, having no fucking idea what I was doing. But I winged it, and not to toot my own horn, I was pretty good at the whole selling thing.

I bought a bunch of their products, a few here, a few there. And all the presenters were like OMG YOU HAVE TO BUY THE TOUCH MINERAL LIQUID FOUNDATION/LIQUID GOLD/PHOTO SHOP IN A BOTTLE!! Yes these are real nicknames for their foundation.

Me: Holy fucking shit, $40 for a bottle of foundation?

My sponsor: omg it’s totally worth it hun, it’s photo shop in a bottle!

I caved. I tried it, it matched my skin tone perfect and the coverage was decent, so I bought into the whole, younique has high end products, and these are just the prices for high end makeup.

And so it began.

The Younique Foundation was just the cherry on top of the mother fucking cake.

So, see you can’t entirely blame the presenters. Yeah their annoying as all hell, they honestly just don’t know any better.

Until next time,


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